Paul Bonacci Debriefing

Posted on March 2, 2011

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On May 14, 1990, Paul Bonacci was interviewed on video tape at the Douglas County Correctional Center in Omaha, Nebraska, by Gary A. Caradori, Franklin Legislative Committee Special Investigator.  Also present was Karen J. Ormiston.  The interview was conducted in the “training room” of this facility.

Paul Bonacci indicated that he was arrested in November of 1989 for Sexual Assault On A Child.  He has been incarcerated since that time and to date, has not gone to court.  He stated that the accusations against him were made by Mike Durham, age 13, who told Paul that he “would be sorry for making him mad” by not letting him go home after hearing several ghost stories.  This incident occurred at Paul’s grandmother’s house located at 1002 North 40th Street, Number 1, Omaha, Nebraska.

Paul stated that he has had his arraignment and hearing and that Scott Slavic, Public Defender, is his attorney.  He stated that he is charged with four counts of Sexual Assault On A Child.  He stated that he has not been contacted by his attorney for approximately one month.

Paul went on to state that he was first abused at the age of 6 years old by a 13-year old boy.  Paul then told his mother, however, she did not respond to him. He does not remember where this happened.  He stated that the perpetrator’s name was Jeremy.

His first adult homosexual encounter occurred in 1976 at which time he was sexually abused by Walter Carlson.  He described Carlson as being in his 30’s or 40’s at that time.

Paul stated that he was also abused in 1978 by a Catholic priest identified as possibly a Father O’Malley.  He stated that Father O’Malley may have been from Sacred Heart.  He explained that he and a friend of his named Shawn, and Shawn’s younger brother were at Shawn’s  house during which time the priest came  over.  The priest then asked Paul if he would like to come to his church.  Paul did go to the church, during which time the priest began to fondle him and stated that he  was “blessing” him.  The priest fondled his penis and performed oral sex on him.  Paul then performed oral sex on the priest.  Paul stated that he met with this priest approximately seven times.

He stated that he knows Alisha Owen, Troy Boner, and Danny King.  He stated that his encounters with Peter Citron and Alan Baer occurred prior to his meeting the other three individuals.  Hestated that the met Peter Citron on 1979.  Adults that he has sexual encounters prior to his involvement with Peter Citron were Todd, Walter Carlson, Joe Burke, Anderson, and Kent Verner.

Anderson: Paul stated that he met Anderson at Walter Carlson’s residence in 1977.  Anderson asked Paul if he would like to “take a ride.”  Anderson then took him into the bedroom and Paul performed oral sex on Anderson.  He stated that he called Anderson “Harry.”  He describes him as being approximately 50-53 years of age, gray hair, glasses, white, and a “big  guy.”  He stated that he thought Anderson was a reporter or journalist.

He described Walter Carlson as small, white, approximately 50 years old currently, whose address is located in the area of 50th and Miami Street, Omaha, Nebraska.  He describes this residence as an older frame house, two-story, and white or cream colored.  He said that Carlson introduced him to Anderson initially while at this residence.

Paul stated that Anderson told him that Paul “looked like his son used to look.”  On another occasion, Anderson and another individual tied Paul up and burned him with cigarettes.

He stated that he met with Anderson until approximately 1985 and that he met with him approximately forty times.  He said that he was 9 years old when he met with Anderson the first time.

During the first encounter, Anderson gave him ten dollars and later took him to Peony Park.

Anderson would sometimes pick Paul up from school.

Anderson usually gave him some money.

Anderson wanted to be called “Harry.”

Paul and Anderson had sexual encounters in motels, one of which was the Red Lion Inn, and at Walter Carlson’s house.

Other people present during some of these sexual encounters that Paul could remember and identify were Carlos Sanchez and an Indian boy from Boys Town (“Joe” is identified as the houseparent for the Indian boy.)

He stated that his last sexual encounter with Anderson occurred on January 2, 1984, at which time Anderson asked Paul, through Paul’s friend, Doug, to meet him at a motel.  Paul had just parted ways with his “boyfriend”, identified as Steve Stevenson who is still in Omaha and who works in the kitchen of a retirement home.  For this reason, Paul agreed to meet with Anderson.

Paul stated that the following activities would occur during their sexual encounters: anal sex (as Paul got older), oral sex, the use of sexual aids such as a vibrator, and other boys present who would watch them and masterbate and/or take photographs.

He stated that Anderson called him his “pet.”

In the year of 1980, Anderson informed Paul that he wanted Paul to find other kids who would participate in sexual encounters. Anderson told Paul that he would give him $500.00 for this.  Paul then asked two boys identified as Ricky and Brook who lived on the same street as Paul did. Both boys are described as being white.  The boys agreed, and they went to the Red Lion Inn during which Anderson was there with an old-fashioned movie camera.  They played “truth or dare” reference sexual activities and Anderson also used the movie camera while the boys were engaging in sexual activity.

Paul stated that Anderson would sometimes grab him by the hair and threaten him verbally if he did not want to have anal sex with Anderson.

Off camera at 11:59 AM for lunch. On camera at 12:15 PM.

Paul stated that Anderson would tell him he (Paul) would get into a lot of trouble if he didn’t cooperate.

He stated that at various times, Anderson would tie him up with his legs spread apart while he was lying on his stomache. Anderson would then have anal sex with him.  He would also gag Paul and whip him with a stick.  Anderson would then say, “This is fun,” while Paul would cry.

Paul stated that Anderson threatened to “cut off his dick” or “have him taken care of, along with his friends.”

He stated that when he was tied up, other adults would have sex with him also.  He identified some of these individuals as Joe Burke and an individual named “Tank” who Paul described as large, fat, bald man.  He stated that he thought Tank worked in a store.

Paul stated that he was tied up almost every time he and Anderson would be together.  Handcuffs, rope, or strips of bed sheets were used for this. Anderson would also cut him with a knife on his arm and leg.  (Paul showed Mr. Caradori a scar from an encounter with a knife used by Anderson.)

Paul stated that he has talked to several of his friends who had indicated to him that they had also been victims of Anderson.

Paul stated that in 1982 he had told the Omaha Police Department about being sexually abused. The police officers had come to his school.  (This will be further explained.)

He stated that in 1982 Anderson threatened to “cut his dick off” because Paul did not want to see him anymore.  He said that he did not want to see Anderson anymore because he (Paul) was then seeing Alan Baer for sexual encounters.  On this occasion, two boys held Paul down while Anderson used a knife to threaten him.

He said that his last sexual encounter with Anderson occurred in 1984.

He stated that he spoke with Anderson on the telephone in 1986 during which time Anderson called him at home and said that that he’d kill Paul if Paul talked against him.  Several days later, Anderson telephoned Paul again at this residence and said that he’s also kill his friends if he talked against him.

He also received a threatening letter from Anderson.

During this time, Paul was also seeing Walter Carlson, Joe Burke, Larry Petta (sp), Alan Baer, Peter Citron, and Larry King.

Peter Citron: Paul stated that he met Peter Citron in 1979 at Peony Park.  At that time Paul was there with his friends, John
Camp (age 10) and Paul (age 12). Citron asked him if he wanted to go to a movie, wnicn they 3T3.  Paul and Citron then went to Citron’s house.  Paul stayed all night, however, nothing sexual occurred at this time.

On another occasion he had met Citron during a time when several boys were playing soccer.  He stated that an individual named Russell was taking pictures of the soccer game. Paul stated that at this time, John Camp was with Citron.  After the game was over, Citron and John Camp told the other boys that they would stay behind to put things away.  Paul later went to where they were sitting and discovered that they were engaging in sexual activity.

Paul stated that in 1980 he was at Citron’s house with another boy named John or Jay engaging in sexual activity while Citron took photographs.  After Citron took the photographs, he then joined the two boys in their sexual activities.  All three participated in oral sex and fondling.

Paul stated that he had sexual encounters with Citron from 1979 to 1987.  From 1979 to 1980 he would meet with Citron approximately three times per month.  From 1981 to 1985 he would meet with Citron occasionally.  Also, on various occasions Citron would fly Paul to California because at that time Citron was living in California.

In 1981 Paul went to Kansas City with Citron, John Camp, Anderson, and a boy named Dan.  They drove a silver van to Kansas City.  They arrived there at approximately 8 PM and then had dinner in the hotel restaurant.

While later engaging in sexual activity, Citron took photographs of Dan, Paul, and John Camp.

Paul stated that at one time, Citron had threatened a friend of his (Paul’s) by telling him that he would tell his parents.

Paul said that Citron had told him that he “thought of him as a son. ”

Sexual activities with Citron included sexual activity with two or more boys at a time.

Paul described Citron’s home, and also stated that there were many video tapes of sexual activities involving boys in the home. He stated that most of the sexual activity occurred on the bed in Citron’s bedroom.

He said that Citron often picked up boys at The Run Bar.

He said that he went to California three times with Citron and made approximately ten trips to California to meet Citron.  He    flew commercially  on Delta, American, or United, and used the name Michael Philips.  He said that Citron would usually fly under his own name.  When Paul was age 13 through age 16, he would meet with Citron in California.

When asked how he could miss so much school, he said that a doctor in Omaha identified as Cabe or Cay of McCabe would write doctor’s excuses for him to explain his absences.  He indicated that he had also engaged in sex with this doctor.

Paul said that while in California he would stay at Citron’s apartment.

Paul stated that Citron would take him to Godfather’s in the Old Market and the French Cafe to eat.  He said that parties with adults and kids were held at the French Cafe and that sexual activity would occur in the bathroom and in a back room.  Adults present at these parties were Larry King, Alan Baer, Peter Citron, and Harry Anderson.

Paul stated that he has sex with a police officer in late August of 1985.  He stated that the officer was named John with a long, Polish last name.  He described John as being 6’4″,  250 pounds, short black hair, square glasses, approximately 40 years old, with a scar on his face. He said that they engaged in sex activity in the Drake Apartment complex located on 23rd and Leavenworth Street, Omaha, NE, after the police officer’s shift was over.  He stated that the officer was driving a 1974 brown, two-door Nova.

Paul indicated that the Drake Apartments are often used for sexual encounters between young boys and male adults.

He said that Citron would occasionally take him to Council Bluffs, Iowa, for sexual encounters. They would eat at a restaurant and then go to a house which he described a large, wooden house with a chandelier in it.  He stated that in the house were many games and pictures of kids.

He noted a boy named Paul Peterson in this house also.

He stated that Citron would burn him with cigarettes.  He stated that Citron would also burn other kids with cigarettes.  This game was called “burnout.”

He said that Citron would direct Danny King to tie Paul up.  He stated that this usually occurred at the Twin Towers or at the house in Council Bluffs, Iowa.  Also present while this activity would occur were Alan Baer Larry King, Bob Moreno, Troy Boner, and Larry (the enforcer, who he describes as being a black male.

Off camera at 1:20 PM to change tape. On camera at 1:32 PM.

Paul stated that pornographic movies would be shown in the house in Council Bluffs, Iowa.  He stated that John Camp had also gone with him to see Citron in California.  He stated that John Camp went to Bellevue High School and graduated in 1988 or 1989.  He has seen him recently at The Run Bar in Omaha, NE.

Paul stated that he had approximately fifty cigarette burn scars on his body, including his genitals.

He said that his last encounter with Citron was in January or February of 1989 at Citron’s house during which time a German boy was also present. He said that the German boy tried to grab his penis, however, Paul pushed him away. Paul stayed in the guest room that night, during which time Citron came in and they engaged in sexual activity.

He said that Citron had bought him (Paul) flowers for Valentine’s Day.

Paul stated that his last homosexual encounter was with Alan Baer on November 15, 1989.  He stated that in January of 1989 he was at Citron’s residence where he witnessed Citron performing oral sex on a young boy with the last name of Bagley who was approximately 13 years old.  He stated that this occurred in Citron’s living room.

When asked about a boy named Andy, Paul became extremely upset.

He said that he knew of two boys by this name and that one of them lived in South Omaha and attended Bryan Jr. High. He stated this boy’s last name may be Jankowski.  No further information was related reference the other boy named Andy.

Paul stated that he had been interviewed by Detective Hoch of the Omaha Police Department approximately one month prior to the arrest of Citron.  He related that Hoch had informed him that Citron had been a neighbor of his (Hoch’s) for many years and why would he want to destroy a good man?  Hoch also informed him that he had interviewed Alisha Owen and that she was lying,

Paul then described Anderson’s anatomy:  He stated that he has a very hairy chest, two scars on his midsection, possibly from surgeries,  and that his penis was small, approximately 6″ long.  He stated that Anderson is not circumcised and that his penis looked “deformed” in that it is “bent.”

Alan Baer: He stated that he met Baer in 1979 at The Run Bar.  He said that Baer was driving a Mercedes Benz and asked him if he wanted to ride in his car.  Paul said yes and they had oral sex in his car while parked under a bridge in the downtown Omaha area near the river.

He next saw Baer in 1981.  Baer had invited him to a party at the Twin Towers, apartment #406.  Paul spoke with the security guard at the Twin Towers prior to gaining entrance to Baer’s apartment.  Paul was approximately 13-14 years old at this time.

He said that the first 10 to 15 times that the met with Baer, that Baer would masterbate while Paul massaged him.  Baer would usually give Paul $60.00.  Baer also asked him if he used drugs.  When Paul said that he did, Baer then arranged for Paul to obtain drugs.  At one point, Baer gave Paul a shot in the arm of a drug.

Paul stated that in 1983 on a few occasions, Baer’s wife would pick him up so he could meet with Baer.  Baer also said that he would pay him $5,000 if he would have sex with his wife.  Paul refused.

Paul also said that Baer would have him engage in sexual activity with Baer’s son, Ted.  Ted was approximately 22 years old at this time and he engaged in sex with Ted at the Twin Towers.

Paul stated that he has had several hundred sexual encounters with Baer.  Baer would give him jewelry, money, and drugs for these encounters.

Paul attended approximately 100 parties at the Twin Towers from 1981 to 1986.  Some of the individuals attended these parties were Larry King, Peter Citron, Bob Moreno, Ted Baer, Troy Boner, Danny King, Larry (the enforcer), Jason Derr, Jeff Hubbell,    Paul Peterson, Steve Stevenson, David Billings, and John Blount.  He indicated that Larry King had given Bob Moreno money to start a business.  He also stated that two runaways from Minnesota would attend these parties, Josh and Troy.

An activity occurring at these parties was Paul giving oral sex to five adult males in succession.  Another activity wa tying Paul and other minors up.  Two or more minors were tied up at a time.  Paul stated that he had been tied up with Danny King, Jeff Hubbell, Troy Boner, Alisha Owen, and a black female named Jamie.

He stated that there were usually approximately 12 minors at these parties.  He said that pornographic movies would be shown which had been brought to the party by Baer.  He said that there were many drugs at the party and the drugs would be brought by various people who attended the parties, including Baer.  Some drugs  available were alcohol, cocaine, and LSD.

He indicated that he had received several thousand dollars to having sex with Larry King.  He said that he had received $500.00 for stripping for Larry King.

Paul stated that he went on “scavenger hunts” for Baer.  (These are “hunts” for other kids to become involved in these activities.) He stated that he would receive $500.00 for each kid he got involved.  He indicated that he been to California, Washington, Arizona, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, Florida, Minnesota, and Colorado, at the direction of Baer.  He stated that he would either go alone, or be accompanied by another adult.

Paul stated that he had gone to California and attended a party during which Alisha Owen, Troy Boner, and Danny King were also present.

Paul went on to state that a boy was murdered in Sacramento, CA.  He describes this boy as being from Idaho, approximately 12 years old, and named Jeremy.  (This occurred in June or September of 1985. )  Paul flew to California in a private plane with Larry King. They departed from the other side of Bppley Airfield.  They made stops in Grand Island, NE (to pick up camera equipment), Aurora, Colorado (to pick up a boy named Nicholas, age 13), and in Las Vegas, Nevada (to refuel).  They then arrived in Sacramento, CA.

Upon arriving in Sacramento, they were met by “a little Italian guy” who may have been a producer, however, Paul indicated that he “more of a murderer.”

They proceeded to a wooded area where the “producer” told Paul that a boy named Jeremy, who was also in the wooded area, had been kidnapped.  The “producer” forced Paul and Nicholas to have sex with Jeremy.  Jeremy was also put into a cage in the wooded area.  Paul described the cage as being approximately 5′ x 5′.

Jeremy was then let out of the cage and directed to run. Paul and Nicholas were directed to chase him and catch him and drag him back.    (Please note that the pilot of the plant that Paul and Larry King flew out on was also present at this time. Larry King was also present at this time.)  Paul had sex with Jeremy as the “producer” directed him.  Nicholas also had sex with Jeremy. People with the “camera crew” kicked and beat Nicholas and Paul. They also beat Jeremy, who was bleeding from the rectum. An adult male then drug Jeremy around the area while having sex with him. This individual was kicking Jeremy in the face. Jeremy was then shot in the head with a handgun.

Paul stated that he tried to slit his wrists when they arrived back at the hotel in Sacramento.

Please note that Paul stated that he had told Detective Hoch of the Omaha Police Department about this incident but Hoch stated to Paul that, “Those types of things don’t happen.”

Also, Paul indicated that while Jeremy was in the cage, he had told Paul that he was from Idaho. He described Jeremy as having blond hair, brown eyes, and approximately 12 years old.  He also indicated that Jeremy had two silver filling in his teeth and braces on his teeth.

He again stated that he was forced to beat Jeremy.

Also after arriving back at the hotel, the pilot then engaged in sex with Paul in the hotel room.    The pilot is described as having brown/blond hair, one brown eye and one blue eye, a scar on his left arm, a tattoed eagle on his chest, and always talked about being in the Air Force.  He stated that the pilot may have been a captain in the Air Force.    Paul said that he last saw the pilot in
1986 at Baer’s apartment in the Twin Towers.

Paul stated that they flew home the next day.

Paul indicated that he stopped seeing Larry King after the above- described incident.

When asked, Paul stated that he had seen Alisha Owen at Baer’s apartment, at a party at a farmhouse, and that he had also seen her with Bob Wadman.    He stated that he had attended a party in June or July of 1985 at Baer’s apartment and that Alisha Owen and Bob Wadman were at this party.    Paul also witnessed Wadman at two parties at a farmhouse located toward Oakland, NE.

When asked the chronological order of seeing Wadman, Paul indicated that he first saw him at a farmhouse which IF located toward Oakland, Nebraska.  Present also at this farmhouse were Alan Baer, Peter Citron, Dr. McCabe, Bob Morino, and Ted Baer.

The next time Paul saw Wadman was in August of 1986.  Paul was picked up by OPD for soliciting, however, Wadman told the OPD officer to let him (Paul) go.

Paul notes here that he saw Wadman coming out of a bedroom at the farmhouse. In that bedroom were two young females, one black and one white. He also saw Wadman snort cocaine at this time. Also present were Troy Boner, Alisha Owen, Danny King, Jason Derr, Mark, Todd, Mike Heveron, and Mr. Welty (whose wife is a teacher at a school in Carter Lake, Iowa).

Off camera at 304 PM due to the noise of the guard shift change. Back on camera at 307 PM.

(When asked about Mike Heveron, Paul indicated that he likes young boys.  He said that Paul first met Heveron in 1980 at which time Heveron filmed he and some other boys urinating.  He indicated that he fondled his students.  Some of the students he fondled were Mark, Troy, and Mike.

Paul also indicated that Heveron performed oral sex on young boys and that he (Paul) and Heveron participated in oral sex at Heveron’s residence. His last encounter with Heveron was in 1985.  Paul then mentions an individual named Mark Bailey or Mark Bagley. He indicated that this individual was sexual involved with Heveron and Peter Citron.)

Paul next saw Wadman at a party at Baer’s apartment at the Twin Towers.  He stated that he witnessed Wadman grabbing Alisha Owen’s chest.  Also present at this party were Alan Baer, Troy Boner, Ted Baer, Larry King, Larry (the enforcer),  Harold    Anderson, Bob Morino, and Benny Ross” Paul also stated that Alisha Owen left the party with Wadman.  He stated that they went out the backdoor of the Twin Towers.

Paul    next    saw    Wadman    at    the    farmhouse    again.    Wadman    was    with Alisha Owen.    Paul stated that he saw Alisha Owen and Wadman having sexual intercourse on a bed at the farmhouse.

Paul next saw Wadman at a Mormon Church service, where Paul had gone with one of his friends.
Paul stated that Alisha Owen had discussed Wadman with him.    She had    stated    that    Wadman    was    getting    paranoid    and    thought    that someone was “watching him.”

Please note that Alisha Owen told Paul that Dr. McCabe would also give her doctor’s excuses so she could be excused from school. She also told Paul that Wadman would pick her up at a bus stop.

Paul stated that he thought Wadman was a friend of James Davis because Davis was also at some of the parties in Baer’s apartment and he and Wadman would visit.

Paul    stated    that    in    the    summer    of    1984    or    1985,    he    accompanied Alisha Owen to California so she could swim.    Paul was directed to
“test Alisha Owens’ loyalty” on this trip.

He stated that he had sex with Troy Boner at Baer’s apartment, and that he also had sex with Baer and Troy Boner together in Des Moines, Iowa, and Omaha, Nebraska. Paul stated that he has had sex with Troy Boner approximately 30 times.

Paul attended a party at the Woodman Tower, which was a catered party.    Among    the    guests    there    were    Alan    Baer,    Larry    Kingf    and Harold Anderson. Oral sex occurred between minors and adults at this party.    Troy Boner engaged in sex with Baer, and Troy also engaged in sex with Chris.

He went on to state that Alan Baer’s wife gave him money which was from Alan Baer.

Paul participated in “golden showers” with Troy Boner.  He stated that Larry King forced them to do this in New Orleans.  This occurred in a hotel shower in New Orleans.  Paul had sex with various minors males while adults watched the activity.  He stated that Troy Boner urinated on him, as did several other minors.  He in turn would urinate in other boys’ mouths.  He stated that, “Larry King liked to have kids piss on him.”  Also, Paul urinated on Larry King in Baer’s apartment at the Twin Towers.

He stated that Bob Moreno liked kids to ejaculate on him.

He stated that he last saw Larry King in 1986.  He also said that Larry King gave him a gold ring with an inscription inside it, however, Paul has sold the ring in order to purchase drugs.

Paul indicated that he made between 50 and 100 flights with Larry King.  He then stated that he had made approximately 300 flights between the years of 1980 and 1986.

He saw Baer again in 1989.

He stated that he saw Wadman in Grand Island, Nebraska, and in Des Moines, Iowa.  Both times, Paul was with Baer.  He saw Wadman at a hotel in Grand Island, and the first time he saw him in Des Moines was when he was in a hotel room (possibly a Holiday Inn) with a round bed in the room. Paul was with Baer.  He stated that Wadman came into the room and Baer gave Wadman a package of cocaine.  This occurred in 1986.  The second time he saw Wadman in Des Moines, Wadman was with his family.  This occurred in 1985. Again, Paul was with Baer.

Paul stated that he has had sex with Dr. McCabe in Baer’s apartment.  He stated that McCabe wore a wedding band at that time. He thought that McCabe may live in southwest Omaha.

When asked what schools he had attended, Paul stated the following:

Shilo Christian
Tech
Northwest
Bryan
Northwest
ISC

These are listed in the order of attendance.

When asked when he had met Alisha Owen, Troy Boner, and Danny King, he stated that he met Alisha in late 1983 or early 1984 at Bae”P”s apartment.  He stated that he met Troy in 1984, or possibly slightly prior to that. He met Danny at the same time as he met Troy.

Paul stated that in 1987, Troy Boner told him about two kids being dropped off in California. He stated that Troy told him about this at a party.

Paul said that he last saw and spoke with Alisha Owen in 1987, with Troy Boner in 1987, and with Danny King on August 1, 1986.

Paul received a letter, unsigned, in January of 1990, threatening him and Janet Stoops.  He stated that Janet has four children and Paul did not want anything to happen to them.  He stated that Baer is the only one who knew how much he cared about Janet Stoops.  Paul then mailed the letter to a friend of his who is in the Air Force, Duran Compton, Duran, however, never did receive the letter.

Paul was interviewed by Detective Hoch approximately 12 times between December of 1989 and March of 1990.    They discussed Harold Anderson, Peter Citron, and Alan Baer.  At times, Detective Bovasso
accompanied Detective Hoch.  Hoch told Paul to recant his store because, “Nothing makes sense” and “Nobody exists named Troy, Danny, or Jeff Hubbell.”  Hoch also told him that the statute of limitations had run out reference Baer.  Paul knew, however, that it had not.

An individual named Ken, who was with Hoch seemed to believe Paul’s story, however.

He stated that he has not talked to the FBI or the Douglas County Attorney about these matters.

Paul stated that he did filed a report with the Omaha Police Department reference his being a victim of sexaul assault on April 21st or April 22nd. He did not state the year, however, he was attended Northwest High School and the assistant principal, Mr. Bell, had contacted OPD. During Paul’s statement to the police officers, Mr. Bell, and the high school counselor were present.  A school guidance counsellor was also present.

Paul was admitted to the Nebraska Psychiatric Institute shortly after he made a statement to OPD at his school.  OPD officers told him that they would talk to him in the hospital, however, they never did.

Paul stated that Scott O’Hare, who is now a deejay was also a victim of sexual abuse when he was young.

Paul went on to state that he was polygraphed by an OPD officer.  Detective Hoch then informed him that the results  were  “Inconclusive.”  Hoch also inferred that charges could still be brought against him.

Paul stated that he gave a pornographic photograph of he and Alan Baer to OPD.  The photo depicted Baer fondling    Paul’s    penis.    He stated that this photograph was in the diary that he also gave to OPD.  Paul indicated that Detective Hoch has the photo because he saw Hoch with it.

When questioned about Boys Town, he stated that Boys Town kids would “just go into town,” or “guys that worked there would bring them in.” He stated that some dorm parents were bought off and would drop kids off at Baer’s apartment and then pick them up later.  Some of these boys’ names were Troy, Mark, Steve, Rick Sanders, and Robert (Robbie). Paul did see dorm parents picking up various kids, and stated that sometimes the dorm parents would give him (Paul) a ride home also.

He stated that one person who would bring kids to parties at Baer’s and then pick them up was a male individual who worked at the Boys Town gradeschool swimming pool. He is described as a young guy and possibly named Dewayne or Dave.

Off camera at 5:51 PM to change tapes.

Back on at 5:58 PM.

Paul went on to describe Dewayne/Dave as being in his mid thirties.

Other information gained reference people dropping off Boys Town kids at Baer’s apartment and then picking them is as follows:

Several of these individuals would also give Paul a ride home.

Larry King would sometimes come outside to meet with with driver (houseparent) and give them an envelope.

Larry The Enforcer would sometimes come outside to meet with the driver/houseparent and give them an envelope.

Paul stated that he saw one of the individuals open the envelope and in it were 30 to 40 one-hundred dollar bills. He said he knows this because one of the drivers/houseparents counted the money when Paul was there.

Other school officials who were involved in the sexual abuse of minors were as follows:

*A male who taught History or English at Burke High School.    He is described as having gray hair, older, solomn, 5f9″, and balding. Paul saw this individual at the house in Council Bluffs, Iowa, in 1985.

*Mike Heveron

*Mr. Valentino who taught at Bancroft Junior High School.  Paul stated that he knew kids who were having sex with Mr. Valentino in 1982 and 1983.

Paul went on to state that he thinks Charles Miller killed Richard Chadek.  He stated that Miller also sexually molested he and many other kids.

He stated that James Witt, who was in the Douglas County Jail for three days, was also a victim of sexual abuse perpetrated by these various people.  Paul stated that Witt had talked with OPD, however, he didn’t tell them anything.

He stated that a male individual with the last name of Carter had been sexually molested by Larry King, Alan Baer, etc. when he was younger.

At this time Paul stated that had remembered that the counsellor who was present at the school when he talked with OPD was named Mr, Weidemeyer, and that this occurred in 1986.

He stated that another murder occurred in 1984 in the country near Waterloo, Nebraska.  At this time, Paul and Troy Lubewitz were in a barn during which time adults were forcing a male child to have sex.  He was bleeding and crying, and the adults were whipping and slapping him.  They were also dropping bags of sand onto the boy’s head.  Paul also said that Troy Lubewitz had seen someone stick a pitchfork into the boy.  The boy was approximately 13 years old.  He said that he later saw the boy being dragged out of the barn and not moving.  Paul stated that during this time at the barn, Troy Lubewitz was “protecting”  him.  He also stated that Troy’s mother had dropped them off at this location.  Please note that Paul    thought this barn may have been located on Charles Miller’s farm.

Paul stated that he thinks Troy Lubewitz may currently reside in San Diego, California.

Reference Alan Baer, Paul stated that Baer’s wife had given him several thousand dollars, which was from Alan Baer to Paul.    Paul estimated that over the years Baer had given him approximately $60,000 in money and gifts. Paul estimated that he had received approximately $150,000 from various individuals in money and gifts from 1981 to 1986.

Paul stated that Rusty Nelson took pornographic pictures for Peter Citron. He stated that Nelson filmed him (Paul) with other kids at Citron’s request.

When asked to describe Jay Derr, Paul described him as in his 30’s or 40’s.

He stated that the individual named Harry Anderson has a scar, possibly from a gallbladder or appendix operation.
Paul stated that Tom Harvey had given him money which was from Larry King. He stated that he thinks Harvey is gay, and that he saw him having sex at Baer’s apartment and also at the French Cafe. He had no knowledge of Tom Harvey’s mother.

Paul stated that he saw Joe Caniglia at a party at which sexual activity was occurring. He also said that Caniglia participated in sexual activity with several kids.  Paul indicated that he had had sex with Caniglia at the Red Lion Inn.

He has no knowledge of Noel Seltzer.

He again states that Rusty Nelson takes pornographic photographs of kids.

He has no knowledge of Casey Randall. He didn’t however, know of an individual identified as “Case” who he had sex with at the Holiday Inn located on 72nd Street in Omaha, Nebraska.

He stated that it is rumored that Willie Theisen supplies cocaine for the parties.  He stated that he has seen Gene Mahoney at parties at Baer’s apartment.  He stated that hi had sex with Mahoney at Baer’s apartment in 1985.

He had no knowledge of Jim Hilliard.

He had no knowledge of Alice King except that he had only met her.

He had no knowledge of Sandy Rhode.

He stated that Shelia Calder provided space (the back room) in the French    Cafe    where    parties    occurred    at    which    sexual    activity occured.  He stated that she would also provide kids for these parties, and would introduce kids to the people at the parties. He stated that she introduced other kids to him (Paul).

Paul indicated that he stayed in the basement of the Franklin Credit Union for approximately three days in 1984. He stated that various bank employees would visit him during the day, including Tom Harvey.

He had no knowledge of P.J. Morgan, except that he had written several letters to him.

He stated that he has taken charter flights (prop plane) to Sioux City, Iowa, to parties there. He engaged in sexual activity in a hotel on the river there.

He stated that Alan Baer introduced Dick Mueller to him.    He stated that he (Paul) had sex with Mueller at Baer’s apartment in 1984 or 1985.

He stated that he thought Fat Freddy was an airline pilot.

He stated that he thought the name Omar Tinsley sounds familiar.

He has no knowledge of Rocky Davis.

He stated that he met and saw Deward Finch at Baer’s apartment and also at the house in Council Bluffs, Iowa.

He has seen Kent Miller at parties.

He has seen Gary Kerr at parties.  He stated that Kerr has had sex with Chris, John Blount, and Paul Peterson.

He stated that he has seen Jim Flannery at parties, at which time he associated with Peter Citron and Harold Anderson.

He has no knowledge of Pino Caseblano, Gary Randall, Lisa Webb, Anita Adams, Shawnetta Moore, Florence Davis, or Mike Lewis.

Paul stated that he does know the McChristian kids, and that their parents would have them “used” sexually.

When asked which bar establishments serve minors he stated the following:

*The Run

*The Diamond – He stated that there was a “chicken house” upstairs which Paul indicated was a “holding area” for runaway kids.

*The Max – He stated that Bob Moreno could “fix you up with anybody” in this establishment. He stated that there were “a lot of chickens there.”

He stated that there is an old, vacant building located by Commercial Federal in downtown Omaha where runaways would stay, and also engage in prostitution.

He has no knowledge of Joel Rogers.

He stated that he knows a couple of attorneys from Lincoln, Nebraska, who are involved in these activities, and that one of these individuals is an attorney for Baer.

The name Sharon Von Butzel sounded familier to Paul.

Paul said that he had engaged in sexual activity at what he thought was the Cafe Carnivale.    (Paul did not, however, know for sure the name of this establishment.)

At this point, Paul describes his diary and how there were pages missing from his diary which had been intact when he turned the diary over to OPD.  He stated that the missing contained the telephone numbers of Alan Baer and Peter Citron.

THe April 20, 1983, diary entry refers to Mr. Anderson.

In Paul’s diary he would also rate various other individuals he had had sex with. He would note their penis size and age.  A + met that they are not gay, a circle with a line through it indicates that they are still gay, a star indicates that he liked them very much, a square met that he did not meet the individual at a party, and a circle with a star inside it met that he met the kids in other cities.

At this point, Paul then explains that he had remitted a photograph of Peter Citron and John Camp, however, the portion of the photo depicting Peter Citron had been cropped off. Again, Paul stated that the photo had been intact when he turned it over to OPD.

We took a break at 7:13 PM. Back on camera at 7:18 PM.

Paul then explains his written notes on camera.  End of interview.

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